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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

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  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mediator.php
  

  It is common for a cult to claim their leaders mediate for the followers, as emphasised by leading cult researcher, Steven Hassan.

  "Mystical manipulation can take on a special quality in these cults because the leaders become mediators for God. The God-centered principles can be put forcibly and claimed exclusively, so that the cult and its beliefs become the only true path to salvation." Combating Cult Mind Control, Steven Hasssan, p.202

  In Christianity, Jesus is the mediator through which all mankind have freedom to approach God. The Apostle Paul puts it simply:

  1 Timothy 2:5,6 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all."

  Jesus alone is our mediator and Paul does not limit who this opportunity is available to. In order to heighten their own authority, cult leaders disregard this concept when assuming the role of mediator upon themselves, using a range of explanations to undermine Paul's statement. With this in mind, it is important to understand the Watchtower Doctrine on the Mediator.
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

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  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mediator.php
  

  Where is Jesus in that statement?

  The 2010 book God's Word For Us Through Jeremiah continues to present this teaching, though so subtly that many Jehovah's Witnesses do not seem to make the connection that Jesus is not their mediator. It explains that Jesus mediates for the new covenant, which is for spiritual Israel, whom the Watchtower teach include only the 144,000.

  "... the new covenant is between Jehovah God and spiritual Israel, with Jesus as its Mediator." God's Word For Us Through Jeremiah p.173

  Under the heading of Mediator in Watchtower Index 1986-2000, there is the subheading "for anointed only:".

  

  This remained the case in the 2016 index online at wol.jw.org Watchtower Index 1986-2016 .

  

  Most congregations no longer have any of the "little flock" to associate with and the reality for Jehovah's Witnesses is that salvation comes from following the Governing Body, the leaders of the Organization. Jesus role as mediator for the Anointed alone is used to underpin the concept that following the directions of the Governing Body is necessary for salvation.
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mediator.php
  

  If Jesus is only mediator for the few thousand remaining remnant on earth, who is mediator for the millions of Jehovah's Witnesses that do not form part of the 144,000?

  "The "great crowd" of "other sheep" that is forming today is not in that new covenant. However, by their associating with the "little flock" of those yet in that covenant they come under benefits that flow from that new covenant." Watchtower 1979 Apr 1 p.31

  "They recognize that they are not spiritual Israelites in the new covenant mediated by Jesus Christ, nor part of the "chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation."-1 Pet. 2:9. Yet they do benefit from the operation of the new covenant. They benefit from this just as, in ancient Israel, the "alien resident" benefited from residing in among the Israelites who were in the Law covenant.-Ex. 20:10; Lev. 19:10, 33, 34; Rev. 7:9-15. To keep in relationship with "our Savior, God," the "great crowd" needs to remain united with the remnant of spiritual Israelites." Watchtower 1979 Nov 15 p.27 Benefiting from "One Mediator Between God and Men"
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mediator.php
  

  Who is the mediator for Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  Watchtower says Jesus is mediator for just the 144,000 anointed.

  "So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the "mediator" only for anointedChristians." Watchtower 1979 Apr 1 p.31

  "Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. He is the Mediator between his heavenly Father, Jehovah God, and the nation of spiritual Israel, which is limited to only 144,000 members." Worldwide Security Under the "Prince of Peace"(1986) pp.10-11
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

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  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  I learned about charlatans dear Vienne.

  And you exerted Morph’s Law without request. So two demerits for you.

  “Do not wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty, but the pig likes it.”

  ~Andrew Gillum’s Grandma
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  I know 2+2.

  I know.

  I gleaned all I need to know from the simple fact she connected her “published” works to an identity on a public forum.
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  I would be disfellowshipped for my crude humor.

  Oh wait, I think I might have been.

  I asked a bunch of questions from the self alleged female author and professor.

  She hasn’t clarified. She thinks she is the expert despite never setting foot in a KH. Probably has no idea what a JW library is.

  How many posts specifically answered her query for printed evidence?

  My questions still stand.

  What is your agenda?
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  Lmao!

  A teacher!?

  That is rich.

  Me your student? Richer.

  Just because you refuse to acknowledge the evidence presented over and over doesn’t make it any less compelling.

  Anyone reading this thread can see you are being obtuse.

  Then you stroke yourself by claiming authorship and teaching.

  WHAT A COMPLETE JOKE!

  You know what? I can’t hear you anymore, because your mother is making too much noise.

  She’s pissed because I can’t understand her. I shaved her back and the dildo is obscuring her speech as I jump out the window.
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  You assert that I’m ranting because you are likely a misogynistic pig. Yet you are the hysterical bitch demanding proof texts after they have been delivered to you over and over.

  Try again flyboy. Printing from day one, printing to this day.

  I have forgotten half of what you will ever learn in your lifetime.
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  Who is the mediator for jehovahs witnesses?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lm getting conflicting advice.ls it the 144000 or jesus.l was always under the impression it was jesus.lf its the 144000 then when they pray the jw;s should be praying through the remnant not in jesus christs name but in the 144000;s name..

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  the girl next door

  Then what are you asking for? What is your issue? You have asked specific questions and received specific answers. Immediately from me. In detail with your requested sources from many others. What are you looking for? What is it exactly that you want?

  You move the goal posts and act like fake news hit you in the face.

  We are trying to help. We’ve been through this a hundred times.